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The Silken Purse Project

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The Silken Purse Project

Building a Silk Purse out of a Sow's Ear

You may want to get yourself a coffee for this - it's a full build story with 28 photos.

Pantyffynnon Slot Car Club has run a Le Mans/Endurance class since it started and it's our only unlimited class. We keep a cap on other classes so novices can get a competitive car, including chip, for under £40 (sometimes under £30). A gentlemen's agreement previously saw a spending cap on Le Mans of £60 but that was waived for 2014. We only ran it for the first half of 2015 and then parked it for a breather.

But now it's back and I thought I would try something a little different.

I won the 2015 series with my Slot.It GT40 - it won all but one of the Le Mans Seasons (losing to NSR Moslers) so I fancied a change. The GT40 has been passed on to our newest club member at a fraction of its build cost and I set myself the challenge of building a competitive car for a reasonable price.

Here's the old GT40 - the "Flying Banana". Looking a little worse for wear in the body department but devastatingly quick with its NSR Shark 25k motor and capable of lapping the Amman Valley Raceway magless in under 7.8 seconds.







So what should replace the old girl?

Everybody is steering clear of NSR Moslers and there seems to be a trend towards a very wide variety of manufacturers - Scaleauto, NSR, Slot.It, Avant Slot, Sloter, Fly etc. So the obvious choice for me was......

Scalextric.

We have a saying in the English-Speaking world, first published in 1579!!!, that you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear (sow being female pig). Meaning that you cannot make something good from something that is bad.

So here's my Pig's Ear, sorry, sow's ear...



Our class is for Endurance cars - anything with an enclosed wheel that has run in Le Mans, Sebring, Daytona and other similar endurance races. We also allow the Scalextric START Endurance cars because they are cheap and they look very similar to so many of the LMP cars.



This particular car cost me £6 (about USD 9) used and complete with naff decals.



The rear axle is missing because I stole it for another project.

Actually it's not a bad looking car, it looks the part and its cheap because there are no royalties payable because it's not a copy of a real car. There are obvious design cues from Peugeot, Audi, Lola etc.



Inside there is plenty of space for a digital chip and all its associated wiring. The "glass" is even removable for anybody wanting to do a respray.



The chassis is quite interesting - it's very low and flat with some stiffening members running from the guide surround right back to the motor. No motor pod but as I always run my motor pods tight that's not a backwards step as far as our track and my driving style is concerned.

But to run this car competitively it needs more than the standard 18k Mabuchi and stock Scaley gears. Time to upgrade - but on the cheap...

A couple of years ago Scalextric must have had a clear-out and offloaded its Sport range of running gear onto the market. It's actually good quality stuff BUT they went with a 3mm axle which instantly doomed it. However the axle bushes are the same outside dimensions which means it's a straight swap into any Scalextric car.

More to the point I bought a load of this stock at stupid low prices. Four alloy wheels complete with tyres cost me £4 - can't argue with that. Sport tyres are actually VERY grippy on Sport track - ideal for my purposes.



As to motive power - as my old GT40 will be racing in the hands of a novice who is proving to be quite fast I need to at least match it's Shark 25k motor. But this build is longer, wider and probably heavier so there's only one thing for it...



The Shark 30k (there's a backup 25k if needed) and a suitable brass pinion.

Top Slots N Trains are selling the Sharks for £9.95 at the moment and I picked up Slot.It 8, 9, 10 and 11 tooth pinions at Gaydon for £3.50 the lot brand new.

So I'm doing OK at keeping the costs down - no point spending more than a Slot.It with a chip and motor upgrade.

And so to work - cleaning up the body...



Stripping and cleaning the chassis...



And running-in the motor...



The standard car uses standard Scaley gears and, being a very low LMP style car the gear enclosure is very tight to the gears so I needed to get out the Dremel and make space in the chassis for my larger contrate gear...



Next step was to fit the brass pinion to the motor using my home-made pinion press.



Then shove in the rear axle assembly complete with ball race bearings.



As our track is very technical with two hairpins and a series of R2 esses I went with the loweest possible gearing - an 8 tooth pinion and a 29 tooth gear. The Slot.It pinion meshes very well with the Scaley Sport gear and I managed to get zero axle slop without any tightness - it's satisfyingly smooth.

As I am fitting similar but narrower wheels up front I was able to fit these to the rear and true them - which I did BEFORE I fitted the chip (no need to stress the chip and blow it before it races for real).



The front axle mount is a simple retaining ring. I don't know if this will be good enough for racing but I reamed it out to just over 3mm, greased the rings and fitted the axle. If it proves a bad idea I can always fabricate new mounts later. Ride height is correct so I didn't have to take anything off the front tyres which didn't need much truing anyway.

So here's the running chassis...



Now came the fun and games....

The body didn't fit. Not surprising given the massive contrate. So I had to butcher the body shell - amazingly the main gear had clearance, even though I have gone much larger, but the shoulders for the grub screw fixings were fouling meaning some careful surgery...



Next the small matter of fitting the SureChange guide with on-board LED and the GregK mega upgraded chip with uprated diodes and mosfet. Although the Start cars are fitted with a quick-change braid system the guide is a push-fit not a screw-in like most current Scalextric cars. The SureChange SPORT does fit - the shaft is the perfect length, but the hole needs to be reamed out a little as the push fit version doesn't have a stepped shaft like the screw-in guides.



As usual I refitted the LED with guide wire because the standard fly lead wire is too thin and stiff.

Guide wires are fixed with M2 grub screws and the ferrite man is midway between the guide and the chip with its twin brother on the motor.

As you can see - the motor is hot-glued in. That's because when I trued the tyres (I connected my variable PSU direct to the motor to do that) the motor kept climbing out of its mount when the tyres started to grip on the sanding block. Can't have the motor popping out under hard acceleration so out came the hot glue gun.



Interestingly the Shark is a little fatter than the Scaley Mabuchi and I had to remove some of the vent slats to make it sit properly in its mount before gluing it in place.

So here it is - the nose is high because I wasn't going to cut a slot in my desk just to take a photo!!!





And the final touch - giving it some visual interest....







I went with a flames theme in tribute to our new club logo (designed by mcewan).

So now it needs to be raced in anger to see how it measures up against the competition.

All in this car has cost me £46. Quite a lot - but not when you consider a Slot.It white kit would cost £40 plus £17 for a chip plus £10 to upgrade the motor to 30k. My car works out at 2/3 the price - let's hope the lap times aren't 1/3 slower!!!

So that's my attempt a making a silk purse from a sow's ear.

I will report back after our first race next week. Then I will know if I have built a competitive racer...



.. or find out that, after all my efforts and fancy running gear, underneath it is still...



... a pig blink.gif

Fittipaldi FD04

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Hi,
Here are a couple of photos of my latest build.
It has been one of my slowest builds (birthdays, Christmas etc. delaying work) and I have lost (I mean deleted!) the few photos I took during the construction process. sad.gif Sorry about that.

It is from a DNQ shell with Penelope Pitlane chassis and decals from Reissorg and others I had in my spares box. Extra bits and pieces (wing, suspension elements, pipes and roll bars) by me.

Well, here are the shots of the completed job for you to enjoy (hopefully!). tongue.gif















Thanks for looking,
Philip

SuperGlue Gel Removal

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I am working on a Lexan body and I got a smear of Lepages SuperGlue Gel on the outside. Not much and in an inconspicuous place but I'm wondering what is the best way to remove it?
Maybe I should just sand it smooth with 1000 grit paper.

how can I ciontact ZAGATO

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Hi
does any one have a current e mail or telephone number for Mr graham paulton AKA zagato .I need to contact him and the pms on slotforum seem frozen and he is not answering my Face book messages .Are you out there grasham?

Lotus 40

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Here is a scratch built Lotus 40 I just finished up. Jim Clark in Blues is the driver.





Gift card chassis in a sidewinder arrangement gives me room for the interior of this low slung racer. Everything but the rims and intake tubes are scratchbuilt. Headlight lenses are fake finger nails filed down to fit as lenses. I vacuum formed the windshield. Review mirror is a bent wire and solder. Seats are made from evergreen scribed boxcar siding. Roll bar soldered brass. Exhaust built form brass wire and the exit exhaust is styrene tube. Intake pipes are mounted on 1 mm circuit board pins to make spacing easy and the assembly strong. I cast the wheel inserts out of resin. Jim Clark was fashioned from Fimo Clay, and I cast his head from a master I have. I think that about covers it.

Cheers


Dan

lightweight filler for resin

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I was chatting with a neighbour earlier who unbeknown to me is into r/c aircraft and has been making all sorts of bits and bobs (including a vac form rig...mmm..handy) but he showed me a resin cast pilot figure that was amazingly light. he uses a "filler" additive in the resin and I wondered if anyone has successfully used this method for shells?

Ferrari Bardhal Experimental

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So after a lay off of more than 45 years I have finally attempted a scratch build once again. My local club has a class for Indy cars between 1950-1964 built on a standard Penelope Pitlane SM1m chassis with proscribed wheels and tyres.
In searching for a suitable body I came across the Ferrari Bardhal Experimental which came to Indy in 1955 and 1956. It was actually run by the Maserati brothers in 1956 for Nino Farina who was the 1950 F1 world champion.
Sadly the car failed to qualify in both years and I don't think Ferrari has been seen at Indianapolis since then. Hopefully my version will be a little more successful!

Building the car brought back some happy teenage memories but there is room for a lot of improvement of course, which hopefully will come with practice. The body came from Geodies and took quite a lot of fettling to get the chassis to fit,
but is now very snug and so I have used a single cross pin to secure it ...the tape is to stop it vibrating loose. The decals came from Indycals. Those of you with sharp eyes will notice that this Ferrari is apparently running on five cylinders! I just did not have enough room
behind the front wheel for the sixth exhaust using the wire supplied with the body due to the class restrictions on track width. Next time I may use smaller gauge wire if the same problem arises.

So far testing on my home track has been OK, but it does not like tight turns with its narrow track and thin tyres. Plainly this car is built for the large oval at the club so I am looking forward to running it in anger next week.

Mark







pcs32 chassis

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been trying to find the length of wheelbase that a pcs32 chassis will cover up to 100mm with the longer front section , the standard one will do to 92mm but cant find the spec for the other. does any one know , or can measure one please?

Porsche RS 60

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This is a tiny car. Built on an extended HO frame with 1/43 scale turned aluminum rims with resin inserts, I was able to get this little guy to sit low like it should. I had to add a 40 ohm resistor ahead of the motor, as without magnets my 60 Ohm controller was working like an on off button. Adding the 40 Ohm resistor brought it back into range, and it is fast becoming my favorite slot car on the track.

I cast the resin body, wheels and formed the exhaust out of wire solder together, Driver body was made out of Fimo clay and the head is a casting I have.







Speed Controller

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Here is a simple "how to" for making a transistorised speed controller. No doubt the electronic experts and wiz kids out there can think of a number of other ways of doing this. The circuit is the basic electronic speed controller circuit with out the "brake" or "sensitivity circuit adjustments. This is about as simple as it comes, all components are easy to come by, total cost around the £20.00 mark.

Speed Controller Build

Allard J2

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hello friend
Coming back slowly on my workbench with pleasure
here is my little 1/32 Allard J2
This kit was made by the well known Charles Lawrence from Seattle
The chassis is ( as recommended ) issue from a Scalex Lotus Seven
I wanted my Allard to be simple as possible and not over detailed
Pilot is by Le Mans Miniature with a Protoslot head . Can't remember where the wheels are from .....
I never liked the big original mudguards on the real car so I decided to fix smaller ones and It was pretty funny to obtain a good result ..... wacko.gif
Hope you'll enjoy it .
best regards .










Lotus 30 Build

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Sad to say I started this build back in April of 2012. Too many projects got in the way along with life and the dying of my passion for slots. This was my very first brass chassis, and I'm thankful to say that I've improved a bit since then (as has my photography). It has sat dormant for almost a year, and almost two prior to that! rolleyes.gif

At any rate, thought I'd share the past and present progress, with the last photos being the most recent (yesterday).

It started as a RMS Resins Lotus 30, but to get to where I want to be, it will require some body work. While the ultimate goal is to recreate a car that once existed, it won't be the typical Lotus that you see, but rather something of a different flavor.

It's been a fun project especially working with the current 1:1 cars owner, who graciously took time to take measurements for me of various parts as well as some custom wheels from Dart Hobbies. I am probably about to jinx myself, but I hope to have it done for its four year anniversary. :tape:

I'm going for something like this, but with a twist (no, it won't be pink):



The parts:


The rudimentary 'Fly by the seat of your pants' chassis. No plan, just went for it. laugh.gif


















Using measurements from the owner of the Pink Stamps Lotus, I was able to cut the air duct holes in the body and add the actual ducts. I used tubing from those 6-8" mylar balloons that come on the plastic 'stick' as it was the perfect scale size. Cut, slice, sand, slice some more, sand a little more, glue, sand, glue, glue, glue.





I carved out the headlight buckets in preparation for clear covers. Next comes the tail panel and some other body work.


The rear panel of the 30 was removed and a new panel added using sheet styrene, rotary tool, and files. It's roughed in pretty well I think and will be ready for finishing once I get the rest of the body mods done.






Front brake vents added by carving three pieces of styrene and carving them with a rotary tool, touched up with hobby knife and files. Final finishing will be done once all the other body mods are complete.


Motor and rear axle bracket?

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Anybody who knows about suppliers for short can, long can and slim can brackets?
Tired of trying to do them my self... smile.gif

Carver

Wings, mirrors etc

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Hi all,

It is probably out there somewhere but can anyone suggest methods/techniques/materials that you would use to create things like wings, spoilers, mirrors, the small fragile bits of detail that you don't or can't usually cast on a body and are added after.

I have used plasticard for wings before but it often isn't very strong so looking for other solutions, whether it is somehow including it in the casting or a way of making the parts separately etc.

look forward to seeing the options

Alex

Tutto Ferrari

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Inspired by 'Peter's ongoing builds' thread, I decided to do something similar with my Ferrari projects and thus combine them in one continuous thread. Most of my projects exist only in my head for now (...) but some have actually materialized into running projects and even finished cars! This thread will be a combination of real scratch builds and upgrades of existing cars (adding detail, improving running gear, etc). But only Ferrari's! Forza!

Let's start with an actual finished project:

Ferrari 312 B2, 1972

This is a golden oldie I did many years ago but it's still one of my favorite cars as it goes really well and it just looks awesome when going around the track. It is a modified Scalextric that many of you will probably own or know. The most important alteration that really brought the car to live was lowering the nose. The car has a much better stance now. Also the mirrors did a lot for the overall look, even if they are a bit too bulky. Added suspension detail, repositioning the rear wings and a livery based on the Jacky Ickx/Monaco 1972 race have also done wonders to the nice but fairly basic original Scalextric. It is by far not perfect but it is very pretty.









Cheers
René

Porsche 906

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Using the Gift card chassis with the small N class of motor has allowed room inside cars that was not previously available. Now that I have found a good performing set up with the chassis I am start to take advantage of the interior room.

The Porsche 906 interior detail was taken up a notch in this build, but now I have done it, I imagine the rest of the builds will include this level as well. ( thinking of a P4 with engine detailing as well as a future project)


Cheers


Dan





chassis help

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Hi

I recently switched my model making from 28mm role playing to 1/32 slot car building - new to the hobby and new to the forum so I'm hoping that "scratch building" is also the right place for kit building and kit bashing ?

I have 6 different body-shells on the workbench, 4 will need standard PCS chassis - with 2 mounting points at the rear and one at the front ... but I also have these 2 ...

shells by kev colgate, on Flickr


so can anyone please point me in the direction of 2 off-the-shelf chassis which may fit these 2 different mounting point configurations


thanks
Kev

My first Home Builds

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Had a real blast in the last couple of months trying my hand at building my own slot cars

Here are the fruits of my labour...

It all started with a Fly 365 Daytona my kids had managed to take most of the roof off with some hard racing, so I converted it into a Daytona Spyder,
ground back the paintwork, resprayed in black , the red leather interior effect is from a charity shop handbag











Emboldened - I kit bashed an Airfix Ferrari 250LM, using a scalextric ford focus chassis with a vintage MIB Airfix 250LM axel assembly and chrome wheels,
scratch built the front lights (not so well) and windscreen wipers (a little better) and kit bashed a nice interior from the bitz box

Really went to town on the decals biggrin.gif

At some point I want to change the front wheel 3-eared spinners, which currently sit proud on the screws - any advice on the best way would be welcome...










Next is my Airfix Aston Martin DB5 - smoother paintwork, fitted with a Hornby Impreza chassis, which was a real pain to line up with
my own misaligned mounting brackets - oh and I learned that copious amounts of superglue melt airfix plastic - schoolboy error rolleyes.gif
hence the somewhat unwieldy French flag decals on the bonnet and boot hiding the worst of the damage...







My favourite to date is this Ferrari Dino 246GT - BSB bodyshell, PCS Chassis, gorgeous wire wheels, kit bashed a nice interior, again the red handbag
leather sets off the shallow interior space nicely, really pleased with my 2 tone stripe in the spray booth. Best of all I clipped the axel so I could lower
the car with the back wheels sitting inside the chassis - gnarly













My last offering was a little more problematic - a Maserati 151 Drogo - the BSB shell was not the best and windows were
difficult to fit, I drilled out the holes in the bottom of side panels (not too neat) - and I found painting in white difficult
to achieve a great paint finish.








Any advice on these would be most appreciated...

The best way to fit the vac formed windows - I do have some 560 canopy glue inbound..
The best tool for cutting axels...
The best material for filling tiny air bubbles in resin shells...

Kev

Ongoing builds

clear resin

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now ive been bitten by the casting bug I worked my way around to thinking whether clear resin would be suitable for reproducing old glazing units? I can see how custom light units etc could be produced but I have quite a few old scalextric cars in need of new glazing (I have complete units for patterns). optically , is it possible to match originals?
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